eight years before the free nelson mandela campaign which launched nelson mandela as a symbol of the anti apartheid movement. when he went underground when nelson mandela was criminalized, he sent out a generation of people to tell people who was happening in south africa, my step-dad was one of those, the first wave. the second wave was during the sow soweto uprising. they got scholarships all over the world. several went to the united states, they basically tried to tell the world what was going on in south africa. >> i once asked the question why nelson mandela, why south africa, when there were so many other problems around the world. i was told that south africa was so stark, so black, so white, so easy for people to understand. is that the way your stepfather explained why so many people go ahead involved in the free nelson mandela movement in what appears to be an apathetic world today? >> yeah, i think there's a resonance with what happened here in the united states in terms of segregation and our history of segregation. there was a parallel that happened on the continent in